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| | | | Religion is philosophy. Is philosophy faith or logic?
Logic requires faith in the premise, the "givens".This message was edited by bree on 8-19-06 @ 9:22 AM |
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| | | | Bree:
Sorry to say, but that's so much religious clap-trap. Logic does not require faith, that's anti-thetical to the entire meaning of logic. You do not have "faith" in the givens, logic is Boolean mathematical operation on arguments. |
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| | | | Given A, B and C follows. You have to accept A on faith.
Faith is the acceptance of something being true without proof. That is what a "given" in logic is. Without accepting the "givens" on faith as true you have an infinite series of proofs of the "givens"
upon which to structure your argument.
The "givens" require an act of faith.This message was edited by bree on 8-19-06 @ 10:39 AM |
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| | | | Bree:
No. Assuming A, then perhaps B and C follow. Logic does not work without proof. I lament your philosophical study. |
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| | | | Have to agree with Khristopher (who is known for logic and reason).
Faith doesn't prove any kind of truth in the world; logic is the light behind reality.
Boyakasha. |
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| | | | true, yet you have to have faith in the thought that logic is correct... thus, by a very long streatch, faith is more important.For one human being to love another; that is perhaps the most difficult of all our tasks, the ultimate, the last test and proof, the work for which all other work is but preparation.
Rainer Maria Rilke
"To know, is to know you know nothing."
-Confucius |
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| | | | Kasteele:
We don't have faith that logic is correct, we observe it. We are wired to see things causally and logic depends on causality. Hence, there is no fundamental "faith" in the system, it is built on experience. There is no a priori mechanism at work. |
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| | | | i could be wrong, but here's my take on it...
W/we have a wonderful example of faith/logic on the boards right now.
according to logic, LM should have left U/us many times since He became so ill. yet His faith is strong and He is still with U/us, loving sophia with His deep conviction, and welcoming a furry namesake into the family.
personally, i had a cousin who never should have left his hospital bed in British Columbia in the final throes of Hodgkins Disease, drive across the country, with the help of his father and sister, one last time to come say good bye to us in person. he died three weeks later, happy that he got to see us again. he told us that it was his faith that got him home.
W/who are we to argue that? |
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| | | | We've been through this one before; logic and reason are known to be factual (take into mind that having faith in something means you're hoping for it, therefore it has not happened. Having faith in solidarity is not quite the same as logically having solidarity, in the sense that faith keeps you guessing, and it only asks of you to see what happens); faith is belief in something that can occur).
I hate this discussion; it's been talked about WAYYY too much, and it never ever is resolved.
Boyakasha. |
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